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And, the new fox forks have a pretty long service interval to them, which is a nice upside. Enjoy E-bike riding just the way you want—ride with full power or tune it less aggressively. These bikes will sell out quickly, so place your order now and we will have you riding your new 2020 ride in two to three weeks. The overall frame stiffness plays a big role too, keeping the bike responsive in sticky situations. The whole industry is crazy in that respect, I'm just lucky years of being a builder working with 4. Neither have given me any trouble. A tubeless Giant WheelSystem and tires boost speed and efficiency with a reduced risk of flats. This lets you enjoy every aspect of e-bike riding, whether you want to ride with full power or tune it less aggressively. Since I'm not yet an experienced rider, the brakes and wheels are more than enough for me, even the geometry. It all adds up to a fun day out on the trails. I think most people are on the longer is better train right now and they don't understand that there's a tipping point. When the pads contact, you change the leverage ratio to small movement and high force. The gap between M and L is twice the gap between S and M. I'm riding a 2017 Reign Advanced 1 and I love it. Everyone at Whistler seemed eager to comment on the new look, and most if not all were stoked on the presentation. The system rider plus bike will require a set amount of energy to be input into the system to bring it to a halt. If we all get down to the basics, most of the frames follow the same geometry! The seat angle has been steepened considerably compared to the 27. But maybe my standards are just low. Combined with 120mm of smooth suspension travel front and rear, its a confident ride that will have you nailing new lines. In terms of SwingLink, the main purpose is to get a precise, modulated bite point while speeding up the initial piston travel - to get more space between the pads and the rotor. Yeah, I have a newer Embolden in the garage and getting a proper dropper to fit sucked because of the seat kink. That means Codes have ~33 % more surface area. Highlights Handcrafted with Advanced-grade composite material, the Defy Advanced is engineered with tube shapes that are optimized to absorb road shocks and vibrations. Bottom line So is the Giant Reign Advanced Pro 29 for riding technical trails or wide-open flow trails? Everything that you could do is test 20 or 30 randomly selected samples of each brake 22 is the minimum amount of samples for statistics to get at least somewhat reliable and then look at the distribution of each model. I could go on and on about how awesome the top-level Fox suspension bits perform, but you already know that. We might even be able to do the 'spec rotor and pad' thing if you're interested besides the factory things. With the industry moving towards more pad clearance to give you quiet brakes even with bent rotors, that is not much of an option. It blends the efficient ride quality of a classic hardtail with the confident ride quality of larger tyres that absorb bumps and give you more tractionso you can tackle rougher trails with total control. I believe Giants numbering system means that a lower number is the higher end bike, so a E2 is better than E3 etc But it's early, and back when I bought my bike there was precious little info out on it either. The lower the stack height the longer the bike will feel. I did try a 650×47 setup with the Contend, and while it fit, the first sight of mud would be problematic. Look at Evil, Devinci etc and they are very high stack heights and they will feel a lot shorter for the same reach number. I hope you're familiar with hydraulic systems. Not so much for a medium and a large frame because you fall into the 90 % segment of well fitted bikes , but more so at the extremes of the sizes which is a personal pain of mine, so i know the area quite well. We will see how it works for me at a later date. It also makes it easier for riders of all sizes to have a perfect fit. Which means if my data is bad, yours is as well. Integrated disc brakes with flat mounts and thru-axles give you added control, and a tubeless ready Giant wheel set makes it easy to enjoy the advantages of tubeless tyres including a smoother ride quality, less rolling resistance, and a reduced risk of flats. Giant e-bike app gives you navigation, health and fitness functions. The d-fuse carbon seatpost, a technology first developed for the tcx, helps smooth out rough terrain. Aspects that the mechanic won't even be able to grasp, yet is telling the engineer that he has no clue about? The ridecontrol one integrated handlebar support buttons offer ergonomic control, and the energypak 500wh battery system lets you extend the ride. This is a change from the previous generation, and Giant is actually using the same carbon linkage on all Reign models, including the aluminum one. Just spot your line, point it and go. I couldn't really buy this Reign frame because 455 is too short and 493 is super long. It has enough tyre clearance and riding comfort to handle gravel roads or daily commuting, while still remaining lively enough for road group rides. I'm sure large companies don't want to make that sort of commitment and then have no parts available. What worries me is your use of 'nm' i suppose you meant Nm , a measure of torque, to describe the force. Different platforms and construction, but speaking in a general sense codes across the board will have more stopping power and need bleeds less frequently. And for added control, it features integrated disc brakes with flat-mount disc brake tabs and 12mm thru-axles. The result is agile and efficient climbing capabilities plus added control for high-speed descents. I own 2 Trance Advanced 1 models. The numbers you provided are, if correct, for some reason skewed. Just as gravel means different things to different people, so will all-road. Saints are more inconsistent on long runs then codes. Hard to tell from photos and Giant's site isn't live for this yet. I bought my 2019 Fathom E+2 last August Ride control one. Tall guys have got it tough and guys with long arms or really short arms. Given most owners of a bike like this will take on a more upright riding position, I suspect the saddle may be the first thing many will replace. So a shorter braking distance will be the product. Already reading complaints about the new rear carbon triangle flexing and causing break rub issues. Everyone looses their mind over an Ibis or a Yeti and the Reign squares up with tidy lines and a linkage that will last longer than ten minutes. Why dont bike companies suck up a few grams in the weight and spec proper bearings in the pivots? This will be my last post in this thread as i've tried to explain simple physics principles and used too many analogies and examples to still be called an idiot that can't Google while trying to explain high school pyhsics to someone who either likes to say to me how wrong i am and make me fight windmills hope you understand this reference or really can't grasp the physics and prefers the words of marketers who are well known to omit facts and bend the truth to make a product look better. Source: I sell a metric shitton of men's medium giant bikes, and rarely do I have someone truly between sizes. Yes I can ride the medium but it is the same as what I've got now and my bike is too small. Hopefully the carbon will take the hits better than the 27. The bike wasn't a super inefficient at pedaling but it had a quick little tug in every pedal stroke that made it annoying. Isn't it logical then for the swing link to provide more power? Both the front and rear triangle on the Advanced Pro models are made from carbon fiber, as is the upper linkage. Sorry for trusting the site that has one of the most detailed and number supported brake tests on the internet to be correct about it and not double check it. Older saints were similar power but more off on and less modulation but overall more reliable but heavier than the new ones. Not trying to bash at all, just my experience over the past few years. It might be that Shimano hasn't really ramped up production of the new 12 speed drivetrains yet. Add in some clever frame details, including the X-Defender downtube protector and smart mount system for racks and accessories, and you have everything you need for your gravel adventures. To make properly sized fitted bikes the geometries should look nothing alike between the sizes, the suspension systems should be different different antisquat values and the like to cater to different CoG heights , etc. To me the lines evoke sort of the bird-like shape of the Giant logo, making the bike recognizable at a distance even without the fancy paint job. I've used almost every brake out there except the newer magura brakes. The only online example of it I can fine is from an independant bike store: One other thing I noticed is that it seems to be using the older 'Charge' display instead of the 'Evo. Doesn't surprise me because I see way more ebikes out there this year compared to last! Folk read in to the geometry to much, it seems like it has become the deciding factor to whether you going to have fun riding your bike or not. Naturally, there are more R's on the market than any other option. Without a suspension division, Shimano will always be at a disadvantage here. But at first pull the heat dissipation is not needed where the system is cold. Those wheels are built solid and heavy at 2,050g for the pair , too, with cartridge bearing hubs, 28 spokes and 17. Leverage ratio, can't beat physics. With a direct link the change in force for a small movement will be large. Shimano is notorious for slow production. As for confounding factors, those need to be eliminated. Again, the overall lateral stiffness — thanks, perhaps to the improved linkage — lends itself to consistent, responsive cornering through big berms as well as sharp, technical turns. It's a good reference in some cases. I just wish more companies would offer real mountain bikes for those of us who know how to ride them them. Naturally, there would be more issues out there to speak of. I could also write about how the carbon wheels and handlebars contribute to the ride feel, but my guess is you know that too. To soak up every bump, from big rocks to small undulations, we gave it a trunnion mount shock and an advanced forged carbon composite upper rocker arm. August 30, 2019 at 9:44 pm Usually I shop for some increased value, often buying a great superseded bike. At least that's how i imagine marketing works. There's a stubby little seat mast that extends above the top tube with a two bolt seatpost clamp. The overall shape is quite similar to the Trance 29, especially the swingarm, which is braced on the non-drive side. I'm not going to upgrade, but one day I will. The front triangle of the frameset is assembled and molded as one continuous piece in a proprietary manufacturing process called Modified Monocoque Construction. Everything will be recorded in real time and analysed so we can determine the 'time to stop' on an equal footing. What I think is stupid is the spacing of the sizes. Our tubeless wheelsystem delivers speed and efficiency with a smoother ride and a reduced risk of flats. So you say servowave is discussed as boosting power and pad clearance? Plus, the new ridecontrol one centre gives you navigation, health and fitness tracking capabilities via the ride control app. We need the Jerry's of the world to buy the handicap bikes to make the sport viable. Plus the variant seatpost reduces overall weight and increases the aerodynamics to ensure you have the total race bike. I'm happy to do it if a news outlet provides the funding, just take care of it. I assumed the next 29er to come from Giant would have some kind of updated Super Maestro thingamagigy that got them back to travel norms. You might fin that on average a certain model performs well, but you are very likely to find a bad sample with a low performance. You'd have to be a freak to fit this bike. As for all the 'can't do googling' comments, don't worry, generally my googling is very good. Friction is supposedly given the simple physics equations dependant only on the coefficient of friction and the perpendicular force, not the surface area. Chainstays need to grow as the front centre grows. The first iteration had a shorter stroke shock, and slightly less travel, but that didn't end up giving them the ride feel they were looking for. I regularly ride both of them and have fun. You'd be surprised at how many discussions and developments start on that basis. I pedaled up the steep fire road leading from the base of Whistler Blackcomb and was immediately impressed with the firm climbing platform offered by the Maestro Suspension design. Splines a little soft being aluminium but it's light and engages well, plus it's petrol so super bling. The differences between these sizes is 15. If I had shorter arms the M would be great. The SyncDrive Sport motor delivers smooth and instantaneous power assist so you can conquer big climbs easily. These integrated cockpit components work as a system to add compliance and reduce road shocks and vibrations. The aluminum model gets a chrome-looking finish while another model gets a sparkly black outer space look. If the largest bicycle manufacturer in the world can't afford to update it's molds every couple of years than just stop making carbon frames. As one of the most hotly-anticipated bikes of the year, the brand new 2020 Giant Reign 29 arrives on the scene as the longest travel 29er that Giant has ever built. I gave you what I said was the best consumer available test, as nobody else has a test with a bench like that. The hardtail frame is optimised for a 100mm suspension fork, which helps soak up trail obstacles. Ask the guys who have designed the brakes then. I mean if youre so worried about rolling over the bumps quicker and being more stable then make your bike have a motor on it, crap wait they already did that. Obviously shocks for years were imperial with metric conversions, yet travel is usually given in mm. There are just too many great bikes in this range already. Which part is a load of crap again? A source for example with some more data would be nice. The mechanical advantage, the ratio of areas between the pistons, is where you gain the power. Something of which you are guilty as well, might i add. Overall the reach on the is quite progressive, though the steepness of the seat tube angle appears to be an outlier among current generation 29er enduro bikes. Its a awful suspension design with that solid rear triangle, needs to be freed up to be more active. I'm very close to the same height as him. Just like you can't push a big block by pushing directly on to it, but can easily move it by using a crowbar as a lever. Or a different lever geometry to move the piston more, in both cases negating the caliper piston surface area advantage. As for the same power and swing link being there for feel and modulation, i don't buy it. Its innovative technologies include a d-fuse carbon seat post and handlebar. And, not to get into an ill worded flame war with you as well, the bell curve of sizing for a company that wants to sell a whole lot of bikes should probably be centered around the global average of 5'9, with a medium fitting someone within a few inches of that, which is what giant's medium size does, more or less. Tried the Trance 29er and it was a great fit for me but I wanted something a little burlier. The handling is about as neutral as it comes, and this is a bike that even newer riders should be able to feel at ease with. What else could make that big of a difference? The average torque data I provided was from a review with a hope dyno with a constant 40nm force at the bar, and was done to a decent extent if you believe the review. And you can't sell the old parts. The energy is mostly conserved, so let's say all of it goes into the clamping force of the brake pads. Here's hoping you get the bike you want! Regardless of the surface area. The D-Fuse seatpost and handlebar system also help reduce road vibrations, adding to its smooth, compliant feel on the road. So in that regard the Guide family is more powerful than the Code family which is basically what you were saying before. Obviously, it only works while seated. The new geometry makes it a quicker and more agile on climbs and descent. At least they can be used for a further, proper analysis. For the swing link with the lever trying to in essence move past the cam , the lever will move a lot for the cam and the piston to move a little. Lower-end bikes always have better margins than top-tier models. Does it take integrated or normal headsets? Geometry has got a lot better but I think it is on the cusp of going too far. The Float X2 and Fox 36 combo is a formidable suspension package, and while 146mm isn't the most common amount of travel, I never had any harsh bottom outs or moments where I felt like I wanted a few millimeters more squish. Ensuring the 80Nm of power is turned in to forward motion are a pair of Maxxis tires, on 27. With cars you have the addition of the brake booster muddying things. The front triangle of these framesets is assembled and molded as one continuous piece in a proprietary manufacturing process called Modified Monocoque Construction. I rode one and it felt like it was all wheels and no frame as if I was on a clown bike. Good clearance here for plus or minus 2. Call it gut feeling or something else. Geometry The Reign 29 has a 65-degree head angle, which would have been considered slack a few years ago, but is now fairly typical for bikes in this travel bracket. And in my opinion, an all-road bike should and does excel on everything from a one to a three. Featuring 140mm of smooth maestro suspension travel in the rear, 150mm in the front, and frame geometry thats designed for 27. Now if I didn't have to sell my first born to get one. Reach was fine, stack too low. I would however say the Codes have a slightly larger piston to move more fluid so you get the same piston movement. And yes, it's down to the Swinglink, what else? Forbidden Bike co are one of the few who seem to have it worked out. Giant tested three versions of the Reign 29 during the development process. And certainly, , with room for 38mm tyres, fits the bill. But you don't need to know the size, just order the correct part number kit. The ranges just about overlap. A Giant WheelSystem comes with tubeless tyres already set up ensures greater control and a reduced risk of flats on technical terrain. This is a direct correlation to average average! I feel like 29ers are a new fad that everyone is on like everyone eats chipotle, that means I should eat chipotle as well, because its the cool thing to do. My first descent on the Reign Advanced Pro was on the , a steep, natural, and technical shard of singletrack that plunges over rock rolls and loamy root webs. I'll get back to that sizing jump in a bit, but it does mean that some riders could find themselves scratching their heads when trying to figure out what size to go with. Stack is just as important as is your arm length. Any site that carries the rebuild kit will have the correct measurement. Sram's advantage ultimately comes down to being a one-stop-shop for braking, drive train, suspension, and accessory needs. Not saying that that is the case with you, but i'm kind of getting that feeling, sorry. It's in essence a regressive swing link vs. With 140mm of rear travel and 150mm up front , it has the new Advanced Forged Carbon Composite upper rocker arm for increased stiffness and strength plus lower overall frame weight. I sold my reign 2016 xl because I nearly sat on my rear axle me: 190 cm and 93 cm legs and going uphill was painful. With its proven compact road geometry and overdrive 2 front end, it has the best stiffness-to-weight ratio of any road bike in its class. Giant has a size chart on their website as well to make more sense of things. Yes, at a certain point, Sram says you need to buy this minimum amount in order to spec a bike but then again so does Shimano. I'll be interested to see what they come up with this year. I'm not going to buy a set of R levers, but i have been thinking about getting someone to lend me a set of Rs. Sadly Sram doesn't provide numbers. The bike just felt weird and I sold it. As for armchair engineering, i'll throw this out. The frame geometry is specifically designed for its wheel size and a 100mm suspension fork. The thru-axle levers require a surprising amount of hand force to prevent brake rub.。 。 。 。 。 。

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